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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.06.07 09:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Buraken v2
Edited by: Buraken v2 on 07/06/2006 09:11:38
Originally by: HippoKing
I have one, tactical overlay and light drones 
not when they sit at an SS cloaked ^_^
Cov ops pilots should be non-found, but ppl using BS's and whatnot and using prototype cloaks should be found by some type of scanner! =)
Why? they are cloaked. For a normal ship using a cloak you lose a high slot, you overall gimp your targetting time and you have a targetting delay once you decloak. You can only move slowly under cloak and you have to decloak to jump / warp / activate a module.
On a normal ship you sacrifice all that to fit a cloak so you can hide, which is about all you can do so whats the point of a cloak if they don't hide you? Nothing to discus unless there is some reasoning behind it. It just sounds like another "I can't find the cloaked ship so we can gank it" whine.
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Posted - 2006.06.07 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Buraken v2
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Buraken v2
Edited by: Buraken v2 on 07/06/2006 09:11:38
Originally by: HippoKing
I have one, tactical overlay and light drones
not when they sit at an SS cloaked ^_^
Cov ops pilots should be non-found, but ppl using BS's and whatnot and using prototype cloaks should be found by some type of scanner! =)
Why? they are cloaked. For a normal ship using a cloak you lose a high slot, you overall gimp your targetting time and you have a targetting delay once you decloak. You can only move slowly under cloak and you have to decloak to jump / warp / activate a module.
On a normal ship you sacrifice all that to fit a cloak so you can hide, which is about all you can do so whats the point of a cloak if they don't hide you? Nothing to discus unless there is some reasoning behind it. It just sounds like another "I can't find the cloaked ship so we can gank it" whine.
But ofcourse the fact that you can kill someone easily kill someone and then warp to wherever and be totaly safe is not a problem to you? 
No, not really. The same way I don't have a problem with 20 BS sitting on a bubble camp.
If somebody is going to wait 5 minutes while you wait for your gimped target lock to allow you to fire they were dead anyway.
What's to counter? all they can do while cloaked (non-CovOps) is sit and maybe crawl slowly somewhere. There is your counter. Lock down the system and wait them out if it bothers you that much but a cloak is exactly for hiding and it is well balanced with all the penalties that go with using it.
So far the nearest you have come to a reason is that you can't find cloaked ships. Thats the point of the cloaking device. duh.
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Posted - 2006.06.07 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Alessandra Grey
Originally by: FalconHawk
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
What's to counter? all they can do while cloaked (non-CovOps) is sit and maybe crawl slowly somewhere. There is your counter. Lock down the system and wait them out if it bothers you that much but a cloak is exactly for hiding and it is well balanced with all the penalties that go with using it.
wondering how you want to lock a system ....instas always gives them the ability to run if they want to  and taking down a bs usualy takes longer than the short moment they apear at a gate. of course you can follow them, but when they manage to escape to a high security system you still can shoot them them, but concorde ...
the same way you lock down any system. bubbles at the gates with gatecamps. instas wont get you through a warp bubble unless its placed wrong or your ship is being flown by god himself.
Not to mention chasing them down in an intie tackler. If they are not a war target and not criminally flagged and they get to high sec then they escaped. Lot of conditions to meet really.
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Posted - 2006.06.07 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rina Shanu
....Anyways, a cloaked ship is a cloaked ship. The only thing I think should be done is inccrease a bit the penalty(s) for a non claock specialised ship....
Cheers, Rina
Have you ever used a cloaking device on a combat vessel? If so what additional penalties do you think it should have and why?
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